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Podcast: From cacophony to symphony

Kata Cserep

By Kata Cserep, Salem Esber, Oscar Henderson

The SAF Podcast

24 September 2025

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, we explore the challenge of scaling sustainable aviation fuel, bringing you insights from our aviation and energy experts on overcoming ecosystem fragmentation and policy misalignment.

You’ll hear about the key findings from our ‘Cacophony to symphony’ report, and discover how our experts are tackling the complex challenges of driving investment across the aviation sector.

You need 20-plus years of certainty to build a large-scale project. You get up to two years of certainty. That's a misalignment that doesn't work if you want to scale an industry.”
Global Aviation Lead, PA
This SAF scale-up challenge is not going to be solved by any one piece of this ecosystem...if you're able to lift your head up, look outside...chances are you'll find somebody else who's looking at the same problem.”
Energy expert, PA
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